20 October 2007

A Saddening Exchange

I would like to preface this post by saying that I am putting this up for the benefit of my coworkers and family member and friends, who I have been trying to explain this woman's ineptitude to for days now. I truly feel that you can't understand how daft, rude and impossibly thick she is until you read her words for yourself. If you'd like more examples of this woman's handiwork, head on over to Raging Server and check out the comments section on pretty much any one of his posts - she likes to troll his site, and I apologize to him (and the rest of the world) on her behalf... we really should be more understanding of complete morons - they can't help being socially retarded. I've heard rumor that she trolls other foodie blogs, too, so you may have seen her around.
I'm sure you can tell from the rebuttals in my first post what kind of bizarre claims and complaints she was making. And I'd like to apologize in advance for the crude names I used in the second post. The first and third posts are me, I just used two different names on accident. My bad. Have fun!
Ande said...

Why don't you apply for a waitressing position at your local Outback or Applebee's or one of those other corporate giants you seem to frequent? I would really love for you to deal with customers like yourself, and finally understand a few things - like the bread that comes to your table.
Guess what? I work at a little bar & grill, independently run, with a nice wine list and a Cordon Bleu trained chef, and if someone orders an entree from our menu, I STILL have to bring them a hot loaf of bread. It's the rules, lady. Imagine how much worse it is in a corporate-run restaurant - I've seen servers take a rant from the manager for forgetting those chips or that bread. If you don't want it, DON'T EAT IT. Same with the sodas and teas - as FOH manager, my policy is to refill those drinks as soon as they are less than half full, and since our beverages always come out in a clean, fresh glass, if they want something else, it isn't any problem to bring it back and set it in the server station. If you didn't want another drink, DON'T DRINK IT. Or say 'no, thank you' when they bring it to your table. No one is forcing you to eat and drink just because something is on your table. Should I also take care to remove the salt and pepper shakers, and the sugar bowl, lest you feel compulsed to eat those, too?
For the 'half filled sides,' you need to understand that there are reasons for things being the way they are. Sometimes, dishes are not small enough to fully encapsulate the exact measured portion of a side dish or condiment, so it appears less than full. But almost every restaurant has a specific portion amount for everything, and that is what you're going to receive, be it in a ramekin, soup cup, saucer or salad bowl - it is still the same amount, you aren't being stiffed.
You keep saying 'if I was' but the fact is that you AREN'T. Either try it out so that we can all see you fall flat on your face, or stop commenting and posting about it.
This may sound sadistic, but I actually love new people who think that they are going to be that one, perfect server. I've met a few, but they were truly humble, and definitely the proverbial 'diamond in the rough.' They were raised to be polite and friendly and efficient, most of them don't even have to try. You are nowhere near humble, understanding or kind enough to lick one of those server's slip-resistant shoes, and I cringe in sympathy for whichever of them has stumbled across you in their time on the floor.
Customers like little things like a personal 'thank you :)' on the check (obviously I haven't classed you as a customer) and some friendly chit chat. As long as it is kept short and sweet (unless we're empty and the customer is a regular), I encourage my servers to converse with their customers. It builds a more personal connection with the server and helps the customer enjoy the meal and the overall experience at our restaurant.

Also, you should consider some grammar and punctuation lessons. I know we all make mistakes (self included) but DEAR GOD! I can barely read your blog and posts for all of the INAPPROPRIATE CAPITALIZATION and "excessive" "use" "of" "quotations" when what you really needed were 'these.'

October 17, 2007 8:47 AM

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Springs1 said...

Ande
“I STILL have to bring them a hot loaf of bread. It's the rules, lady. Imagine how much worse it is in a corporate-run restaurant - I've seen servers take a rant from the manager for forgetting those chips or that bread. If you don't want it, DON'T EAT IT.”

We’ve already a few times been to Mexican restaurants where they greet you with chips & salsa and declined them due to that we were just getting a dessert and drinks. They didn’t MAKE US HAVE IT ON THE TABLE. THEY DIDN’T EVEN PUT IT ON THE TABLE.

Even if you bring it to my table, YOU STILL CAN ****ASK**** IF I WANT IT OR NOT! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT?

At Outback, out of ALL the bunches of times we have gone there ONLY ONCE were we greeted with bread. All the other times, we got greeted WITHOUT bread and put our drink and appetizer order if we choose to get an appetizer. At that time, the server ****CAN ***** ***************ASK********************* INSTEAD OF JUST BRINGING IT TO THE TABLE. It’s called being ****CONSIDERATE**** OF WHAT THE “CUSTOMER” WANTS.

Let me ask you a question: What if you went to greet me at Outback without bread, just as we usually get and I tell you we don’t want bread. Do you mean to tell me you have to PUSH IT ON ME? Do you mean to tell me we HAVE to have it on our table? LIKE HELL I WOULD NOT MAKE YOU TAKE IT BACK IF I DIDN’T WANT IT just as we did when we declined chips & salsa. A CUSTOMERS SHOULDN’T HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR TABLE IF THEY DON’T WANT IT THERE. You mean to tell me you can’t TELL YOUR MANAGER WE DON’T WANT THE BREAD? There is something MAJORLY WRONG WITH THAT IF YOU HAVE TO DELIVER SOMETHING FOR NOTHING.

“Same with the sodas and teas - as FOH manager, my policy is to refill those drinks as soon as they are less than half full, and since our beverages always come out in a clean, fresh glass, if they want something else, it isn't any problem to bring it back and set it in the server station.”

If all servers had to do this, I would get this happening all the time, but instead it’s only about 20% of my outings I have servers that don’t ask or let me ask for a refill. MOST SERVERS ***DO**** LET ME DO THE ORDERING OR ASK ME THEMSELVES. They obviously don’t want to make trips for nothing.

“If you didn't want another drink, DON'T DRINK IT.”

I SHOULDN’T HAVE TO PUT IT ON MY TABLE! I DON’T LEAVE IT ON MY TABLE. I have made a server take a glass of water I never ordered, because it was such a small table, I needed the room. I DON’T HAVE TO TAKE IT IF I DON’T WANT TO.

“Or say 'no, thank you' when they bring it to your table.”

This remark PISSES ME OFF! THERE’S NO WAY IN HELL I WOULD “THANK” SOMEONE FOR WASTING MY TIME! If anything, they should be ***APOLOGIZING*** for WASTING TIME and trying to do the ****ORDERING FOR ME**** WHEN THAT IS ***MY JOB**** NOT THEIRS!!!

I HAVE NEVER SAID “THANK YOU” when I have wanted to switch soft drinks. LIKE HELL IF YOU THINK I WOULD! THEY SHOULDN’T BE TRYING TO MAKE THAT DECISION FOR ME. THAT’S ******************MY****************** DECISION IF I WANT ANOTHER REFILL OF THE SAME DRINK! WHY DO YOU THINK IT’S THE SERVER’S JOB TO ORDER FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS?

“No one is forcing you to eat and drink just because something is on your table.”

I DON’T LET THEM KEEP SOMETHING I DON’T WANT ON THE TABLE LIKE A REFILL I DON’T WANT OR CHIPS & SALSA. I DON’T FEEL I SHOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT IN MY WAY.

“Should I also take care to remove the salt and pepper shakers, and the sugar bowl, lest you feel compulsed to eat those, too?”

Those are ***NOT*** THE SAME, because they are way on the SIDE OF THE TABLE. THEY AREN’T IN THE MIDDLE OF TABLE OR A DRINK I AM ORDERING. The things on the SIDE of the table are just that, ON THE SIDE NOT IN PEOPLE’S WAY. THINGS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TABLE AND AN EXTRA GLASS CAN BE IN THE WAY. Especially sitting at a small table or booth, an extra glass or unwanted bread can be a nuisance.

“But almost every restaurant has a specific portion amount for everything, and that is what you're going to receive, be it in a ramekin, soup cup, saucer or salad bowl - it is still the same amount, you aren't being stiffed.”

NOT TRUE that I am not being “STIFFED.” One time I ordered crab cakes at Applebee’s that comes with REMOULADE SAUCE. The side is small. The first side had about ¾’s of a side. I
had actually ordered an extra side of remoulade sauce. The second side had it only HALF-FILLED. The first side was pretty much acceptable, but NOT the second side. Do you UNDERSTAND that ***BOTH*** OF THE SIDES SHOULD HAVE BEEN FILLED THE SAME AMOUNT? I ended up having to ask for more, because they didn’t actually fill them up all the way. First off, since I am PAYING for the FIRST side, I should get a “FULL” side. Secondly, I ordered a second one, so that one should have been FULL ALSO. IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT “PORTION” they may have, it’s the fact that if you ORDER a side of whatever condiment it should be a ***FULL*** SIDE. HOW COME A LOT OF TIMES I HAVE A SIDE OF RANCH FILLED ALL THE WAY? Then the mayo won’t be?

“Either try it out so that we can all see you fall flat on your face, or stop commenting and posting about it.”

I DON’T HAVE TO “TRY” TO KNOW WHAT I ****EXPERIENCE*** AS A CUSTOMER TO KNOW HOW TO *********PREVENT*********** MISTAKES FROM GETTING TO CUSTOMERS.

“Customers like little things like a personal 'thank you :)'”

Honestly, I have talked to a few people about this and they said that they’d rather get their check FASTER THAN for their server to waste their time doing that. They also said it doesn’t sway them tipping any more than what they were going to.

I feel writing that shows how SELFISH those type of servers are that they ONLY care about their tips and NOT about their customer’s TIME.

“some friendly chit chat.”

I chit-chat with servers ***AFTER**** I HAVE PLACED MY ORDER AS LONG AS I AM NOT INTERRUPTING SOMEONE ELSE’S TIME. I feel talking to them BEFORE I have even ordered about personal stuff makes me irritated because I am HUNGRY AND THRISTY. If I can have my drink in 2 minutes, I want it in 2 minutes, NOT in 5. If I can have my food in 30 minutes instead of 35, I would rather have my food in 30 minutes. MOST PEOPLE WANT THEIR FOOD AND DRINKS OUT FASTER THAN TO TALK TO THEIR SERVERS. THIS IS THE TRUTH. I have read A LOT of people’s opinions about this. A LOT of people feel that an unobtrusive server that doesn’t bother them and only is there when needed. Think about people on a date and how they want ALONE TIME. CHIT-CHATTING IS FOR BARTENDERS, NOT FOR SERVERS! When a customer bitches on “HOW LONG” something took, you can LOOK IN THE MIRROR AT WHO IS PARTIALLY AT FAULT HERE. If you chit-chat with me BEFORE you get my order, then you have just DELAYED my ordering, which delays my food getting to my table. When you are thirsty, do you really want to wait for your server to finish chit-chatting with the other table or go get your refill? A server job is supposed mostly about “SERVING”, NOT AT ALL ABOUT “CHIT-CHATTING.” GO TO A BAR IF YOU WANT CHIT-CHAT. GOOD SERVERS DON’T HAVE THE ***TIME*** WHEN THEY ARE SLAMMED TO CHIT-CHAT. These people keep saying they don’t have the time to get the condiments before the meal, well GEE, you have the time to CHIT-CHAT, you HAVE THE TIME TO GO GET MY RANCH OR WHATEVER CONIDIMENT OR CONDIMENTS I HAVE ORDERED. When a server has time to “PLAY”, then they SHOULDN’T GET PAID TO PLAY. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO WORK BEING ACTUALLY “WORK?”

“I encourage my servers to converse with their customers.”

When you have TIME complaints, I bet you wish you didn’t do that, don’t you?

October 17, 2007 7:50 PM

Stick O'Crisco said...

Okay, you pathetic, pretentious bitch.
You do understand that you frequent corporate-run, frozen-food peddling CHAIN RESTAURANTS who underpay their servers, make them tip out absurd amounts to other people on staff and basically suck the souls from their bodies? No wonder you get such bad service! Your poor waiter or waitress has met so many customers who, like you, have a skewed sense of entitlement and no manners to speak of that they NO LONGER CARE. As soon as they see you they read the rest of the night and just don't really give a shit because trying to please you is like trying to fly by flapping your arms - im-bleeding-possible.

I would absolutely LOVE for you to come pay a visit to my restaurant. I'll even seat you at one of my own tables and serve you myself. Just to see the look on your face when everything goes right and you have NOTHING to complain about would make my week.

I hate that you are so damn specific - do you remember every single order at every single restaurant you have ever been to? And every single mess-up or mistake that the waitstaff made, and every time that they so much as glanced at another table? Do you MEASURE every condiment and side and time the meal with a stopwatch? Honestly!

I hate people like you who go out to eat and claim that you're STARVING and SO THIRSTY and must be served IMMEDIATELY - why should you wait two minutes for glasses when I can just aim the bar gun at your mouth? People like you make me miss the dining experience in Europe more than anything - you're so demanding, you want your food NOW and all you're going to do is inhale it, rush your sever and leave. My restaurant promotes long, leisurely meals. If you're in a hurry, we can handle that, but it isn't the norm. Our Chefs (yes, they have been trained and EARNED that appellation) have worked long and hard perfecting our menu and hope that you will take your time to savor and enjoy the food they have prepared; preferably with a glass of nice wine - not that white zin crap you probaly drink straight from the box thinking that you're high class.

If you ever treated one of my servers the way you seem to by your postings, or didn't have the common decency to say please and thank you, not only would I place an automatic gratuity on your bill, but I would ask you to choose: apologize or leave. I don't put up with that sh*t, and I certainly don't expect my servers to.

I love how you didn't respond to any personal points in my post. Nice.

And in response to some of your nastier points, at my restaurant, ranch and mayo are different portion sizes. Stop lumping every restaurant and server in with your own picky-as-hell experiences and try eating somewhere worthwhile. My husband is in the military and I'm a waitress - when we eat out it is a big deal and a special treat. You wouldn't catch me at Outback or Chili's or any of those other chains you frequent, because I like my food fresh and tasty, not frozen and icky. Try eating somewhere one-of-a-kind, and you won't be disappointed. I'm not saying fancy, just different.

My servers will bring that bread or those drinks to your table EVERY TIME, and if you do not want them, at least my server did his or her job and you can say 'no, thank you' and we will return it to the server station and they will consider it a treat. No harm, no foul. No one assumed or ordered for you, they simply followed guidelines and did their job.

You will ALWAYS find a personal note from your server on a check here, because it shows that they took the time to recognize YOU and thank you for your business. It has nothing to do with tips or money, and everything with service. I always try to remember something specific about my customers and put that with my name and a smiley face on my tickets - not only are they easier to sort at the end of the night, but my customer feels like I appreciate them and noticed them. It takes about 30 seconds to add a personal thought and a smiley onto a tab, by the way. I usually do it while my folder copy is printing, or while you're finishing your meal.

I've never had a time complaint, and I don't think ever will. I have a well-trained staff at a small restaurant with an exceptional Chef, GM and Sous.

If you're ever in Colorado Springs, come join us for dinner. In the meantime, my staff will continue to deliver bread, drinks and smiley faces, and I'll continue posting the exemplary comment cards on the board in the server station. Come to think of it, we may need to buy a new one soon... the one we have is almost full :)

October 18, 2007 2:40 PM

stick o' crisco
"Okay, you pathetic, pretentious bitch."

You DON'T even KNOW ME and you already calling me a name. LOOK IN THE MIRROR AT WHO'S THE BITCH!

"You do understand that you frequent corporate-run, frozen-food peddling CHAIN RESTAURANTS who underpay their servers, make them tip out absurd amounts to other people on staff and basically suck the souls from their bodies?"

YES I DO, THAT’S WHY I AM SMART ENOUGH NOT TO BE A SERVER.

"no manners to speak of"

What do you call saying "THANK YOU" EVERY SINGLE TIME SOMEONE BRINGS ME SOMETHING UNLESS IT'S FORGOTTEN? Even then, I have said "THANK YOU" at times, but I got NO "SORRY" though. LOOK at the people who DON'T have manners. It's SOME SERVERS that don't.

LOOK IN THE MIRROR AT WHO CALLED ME A “PRETENTIOUS BITCH” AND I HAVEN’T CALLED YOU A MEAN NAME! LOOK AT WHO DOESN’T HAVE MANNERS! It’s NOT ME, IT’S YOU!

Also, when you make a mistake, if you don’t say you are sorry, then YOU REALLY DON’T HAVE ANY MANNERS!

"As soon as they see you they read the rest of the night and just don't really give a shit because trying to please you is like trying to fly by flapping your arms - im-fucking-possible."

NOT TRUE AT ALL. I have given 30% 3 times and I have given 25%-28% BUNCHES AND BUNCHES OF TIMES. If I wouldn't be truly "pleased" I WOULD NEVER PAY THAT MUCH, NOW WOULD I? There have been PLENTY, PLENTY of TIMES when we have had “PERFECT SERVICE” that NOTHING AT ALL WENT WRONG, NOT A THING!

"I hate that you are so damn specific - do you remember every single order at every single restaurant you have ever been to? And every single mess-up or mistake that the waitstaff made, and every time that they so much as glanced at another table?

NO, OF COURSE I DON'T remember EVERY SINGLE THING I have ever ordered, but I do remember things that piss me off just as MOST people do. People usually keep things into their memory’s that affects their feelings.

"Do you MEASURE every condiment and side and time the meal with a stopwatch? Honestly!""

NO, sometimes I DON'T notice the time and NO I don't always "MEASURE" the condiments. If I don't get enough of what I specifically asked for, that's when I become pissed off about it. It's like you order your food a certain way, but when the SAME server that took the order brings out the food, they are TOO STUPID to VERIFY WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE HANDING ME. You can **SEE** if I have a "HALF-SIDE" or a "WHOLE-SIDE." This is NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. This is COMMON SENSE.

“I hate people like you who go out to eat and claim that you're STARVING and SO THIRSTY and must be served IMMEDIATELY - why should you wait two minutes for glasses when I can just aim the bar gun at your mouth?”

I TRULY DON’T GET WHY YOU HATE PEOPLE LIKE THAT. MOST PEOPLE ARE LIKE THAT.

Just look at all these time complaints from:

http://www.complaints.com/complaintofthedayoctober142000.4.htm

"We were waited on and order was taken at 11:40am, and did not receive our lunch until 12:25pm. I understand that the noon hour is busy, but not only did our drinks run out, but our waitress avoided coming to our table.
This not only made us late coming back to work, but the food was cold. When we looked on our ticket our order was not placed until 12:08."

http://www.complaints.com/complaintofthedayoctober192000.1.htm

“After 20 minutes we received our tea.”

“Then after another 25 minutes(and still no food) he walked by us 4 times, gave me eye contact, but never appologized for the delay in our order.Finally the food came, wrong order and cold.”

http://www.planetfeedback.com/index.php?level2=blog_viewpost&topic_id=301226

“waited 20 minutes to try and place my order my husband asked another server it he could get the person who's taking care of this table and he told okay waited another 10 min totalling 30min waitng”

http://www.planetfeedback.com/index.php?level2=blog_viewpost&topic_id=301388

“My breaking point is when after 15 min with no drink”

“we asked for the check and to go meal .That turned out to be another 20 minutes !!!!!”

http://www.planetfeedback.com/index.php?level2=blog_viewpost&topic_id=297128

“After waiting 45 minutes to be seated it took 10 minutes for the waitress to come to the table. After waiting another 25 minutes for our food, the waitress brought 2 orders that were wrong. I took an additional 15 minutes to get replacement orders and even after that, one of them were still wrong.”

http://www.planetfeedback.com/index.php?level2=blog_viewpost&topic_id=109687

“We set there for a time before she took our drink orders, she was slow giving us refills.”
These are ONLY a LITTLE BIT of the people that want their stuff in a timely manner.

“If you're in a hurry, we can handle that, but it isn't the norm.”

IT IS IN CHAIN RESTAURANTS AND MOST RESTAURANTS THAT AREN’T FANCY. If it wasn’t the “norm”, most of the time, you’d have to wait for refills for 10 minutes every single time and your food would take 45 minutes or so instead of 20-35 mins. Normally, we DON’T wait for refills even 5 minutes. MOST servers go get the RIGHT AWAY. The ones that don’t get lower tips.

“not that white zin crap you probaly drink straight from the box thinking that you're high class.”

Don’t like white zinfandel personally. I like Sonoma Cutrer Russian River. At a fancy restaurant, it was like $9 a glass.

"If you ever treated one of my servers the way you seem to by your postings, or didn't have the common decency to say please and thank you, not only would I place an automatic gratuity on your bill, but I would ask you to choose: apologize or leave. I don't put up with that shit, and I certainly don't expect my servers to."

YOU DON'T GET IT? I **DO** SAY "PLEASE & THANK YOU". I SAY "THANK YOU" EVERYTIME EXCEPT FOR WHEN SERVERS MESS UP, THEN IT WILL DEPEND ON IF THEY SAY THEY ARE SORRY FIRST OR IF IT'S A MINOR MISTAKE. Like for instance, a waiter that took our order that brought me macaroni & cheese instead of a baked potato. Instead of saying he was sorry, he didn't. So when he brought back the thing I did order which was the baked potato, I MADE DAMN SURE I TREATED HIM WITH THE SAME ***DISRESPECT*** HE TREATED ME WITH BY NOT SAYING “THANK YOU”, because he DIDN’T APOLOGIZE. You be mean to me, I'll be mean to you by not saying "thank you." I have even said "Thank you" without an apology before out of habit.

“And in response to some of your nastier points, at my restaurant, ranch and mayo are different portion sizes.

“A side should be a "SIDE", so just because a tablespoon let's say is for mayonnaise, since I NEVER actually ORDERED a "TABLESPOON", WHY THE HELL BRING ME SOMETHING I DIDN'T ORDER?”

A side=1 SIDE, which is the CONTAINER WORTH. If I order a “side of ranch”, then it should be an EQUAL AMOUNT I get if I order Mayo, UNLESS I SPECIFICALLY STATED I DON’T want that much.

So if the customer orders like this: “I would like a side of mayo.” The SERVER should be **SMART** ENOUGH TO KNOW that a customer is ****NOT*** going to know that to this restaurant, a side of mayo to them(which TRULY ISN’T) is a table spoon worth. So if the customer orders a “SIDE” that means it should be a ****FULL***** SIDE EXACTLY JUST AS ORDERED. Did the customer order like this: “I would like a “TABLESPOON” or a “LITTLE” mayo? NO, so ask yourself that the next time you bring out the WRONG AMOUNT. The customer SHOULD GET *********EXACTLY********** WHAT THEY ASKED FOR. If you have to charge them, go ahead, because I would RATHER PAY FOR IT, THEN TO GET PISSED I DON’T HAVE WHAT I ORDERED. I SHOULDN’T have to TELL the server something that is NOT CORRECT THAT THEY CAN OBVIOUSLY ***SEE*** IS NOT FULL WITHOUT TOUCHING THE CONDIMENT! If the customer orders a “SIDE”, well a “SIDE” is a “SIDE”, NOT a “TABLESPOON” WORTH! DO YOU GET THAT?

“Stop lumping every restaurant and server in with your own picky-as-fuck experiences and try eating somewhere worthwhile.”

The restaurants I eat at I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the food and drinks. They have GOOD FOOD at the places I go to. I HONESTLY, ANYDAY, would MUCH RATHER have a Chili’s burger with fries than a Filet Mignon. I just don’t like the fancy foods that much. I love cheese sticks, southwestern egg rolls, salads with lots of ranch, crap dip, crab cakes, etc. I don’t really care for the fancy stuff most of the time.

"You wouldn't catch me at Outback or Chili's or any of those other chains you frequent, because I like my food fresh and tasty, not frozen and icky."

That's YOUR OPINION. I LOVE CHILI'S, OUTBACK, RED LOBSTER, APPLEBEE'S, ETC. Remember, EVERYONE’S TASTE BUDS AREN’T ALIKE. I HATE ketchup, which 90% of the population likes ketchup.

"Try eating somewhere one-of-a-kind, and you won't be disappointed. I'm not saying fancy, just different."

I HAVE before. This one restaurant that wasn’t fancy, I was overcharged, which there was only 1 other couple at a table and 1 person at the bar, so this didn't make any sense why I was overcharged due to the server NOT knowing what the menu had on it. I had ordered an entree and so did my husband. I also added a salad to an entree. This was the VERY FIRST TIME we were there. They had above out of the list of entrees that I had picked one from, "Add a house salad or soup for $1.99." When the check came, she billed me $3.50 as if I never ordered an entrĂ©e for the house salad. When I politely asked why the price was $3.50, she was RUDE by telling me "It's whatever is in the computer." I was thinking in my head “As if the computer matters when the ADVERTISTED PRICE IS WHAT MATTERS.” Anyway, I had to SPECIFICALLY SHOWED HER WHERE ON THE MENU IT STATED THIS. She went to get her manager in the back, which she still didn’t apologize at this point as ***I*** WOULD HAVE IN THIS SITUATION WHERE I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN PROVED WRONG IF I WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SERVER IN THIS SITUATION. All they did was fix it, no comp, which I feel for being treated like that, I should have had the salad taken off. I didn't speak to the manager either. Anyway, ONLY AFTER she brought back the finalized check she said “Sorry about the mistake." She got stiffed. It was her RUDENESS and her NASTY ATTITUDE as if she wasn't wrong and that what price the computer had only mattered. It’s like when you buy something in the store, you go according to the shelf price, but if it scans a higher price, you may choose to tell them, so I DO NOT GET WHY this waitress couldn’t possibly think SHE could have been at fault? It wasn't the wrong price in the computer, it was **HER** that pressed the WRONG BUTTON. The revised bill had "Add house salad to entree" instead of just "house salad" which had $3.50. I was overcharged $1.51. My point is, this was a NON-CHAIN restaurant, had almost no other customers and I STILL GOT BAD SERVICE. The restaurant was Mediterranean and middle eastern.

"My servers will bring that bread or those drinks to your table EVERY TIME, and if you do not want them, at least my server did his or her job and you can say 'no, thank you' and we will return it to the server station and they will consider it a treat. No harm, no foul."

There's NO WAY I would say "NO THANK YOU" to something I NEVER ORDERED.

"No one assumed or ordered for you, they simply followed guidelines and did their job."

They did by not asking me as they greeted me BEFORE they handed it to me. For instance, even if they greet me with bread, **BEFORE** THEY EVEN ATTEMPT TO PLACE IT ON THE TABLE, THEY CAN SIMPLY BE CONSIDERATE ENOUGH TO ******ASK****** IF I WANT IT OR NOT. It's called being nice and considerate which is something you don't understand OBVIOUSLY. They can bring it out by following the guidelines, but they can also **ASK** BEFORE HANDING IT OVER WHILE IT IS IN THEIR HANDS INSTEAD OF JUST PLOPPING DOWN SOMETHING ON THE TABLE THAT WAS NEVER ORDERED. WHY CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THIS? The CUSTOMER is supposed to say what they want or don't want. MY SERVER ISN'T SUPPOSED TO DO THE ORDERING FOR ME, whether it's something free or not. ASK BEFORE HANDING IT OVER IS WHAT I AM SAYING.

The server “ASSUMED” I wanted bread, because they NEVER ***ASKED*** ME BEFORE THEY PLACED IT ON MY TABLE.

"You will ALWAYS find a personal note from your server on a check here, because it shows that they took the time to recognize YOU and thank you for your business."

NOT TRUE AT ALL. If I had a scanner, I could scan ALL THE RECEIPTS I HAVE THAT HAVE **NO** "THANK YOU'S" or smiley faces or whatever personal notes on the check. Those servers didn't have the TIME to do that and didn't want to waste the customer's time.

"It has nothing to do with tips or money, and everything with service. I always try to remember something specific about my customers and put that with my name and a smiley face on my tickets - not only are they easier to sort at the end of the night, but my customer feels like I appreciate them and noticed them."

IT DOES, just look at all these sites that say this is what it's for:

http://money.cnn.com/2004/08/24/commentary/everyday/sahadi/

“Draw smiley faces on checks. Waitresses (not waiters) who drew smiley faces on the bill got bigger tips in one study.”

http://www.icrsurvey.com/Study.aspx?f=AP_Tipping_0702.html

“Writing "thank you" on the check also increases tips”

http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2006_3rd/Sep06_Tipping.html

“We've found that customers tip more when servers do things such as writing thank you on the check”

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/dining/reviews/blog/2007/10/
“Writing thank you on the check, 13 percent more.”

“*A waitress drawing a smiley face on the check, 18 percent more.”

http://books.google.com/books?id=7r__T-oD5WAC&pg=PA40&lpg=PA40&dq=%22writing+a+smiley+face+on+the+check%22&source=web&ots=Np1QUBkD1V&sig=jtH1bvQjZFxAqElSgq-H0UyqTvk

http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2005/04/what_do_we_know.html

“7. Drawing a smiley face on the check increases a waitress's tips by 18 percent”

http://bitterwaitress.net/smf/index.php?topic=6574.20

Mr Chowder said: “Everything the waitresses did increased their tip average by 1 - 2 percent. I tested over a 4 week period and had all the same watresses try different things. Strangely, on a holiday (can't remember which monday it was) all the tips went down.

We tried drawing a smiley face on the check, putting stickers on the check, candy with the check, gum with the check, and a flower in the hair.”

There’s many more sites that *****PROVE***** writing a note or smiley face on the check INCREASES TIPS!

“I usually do it while my folder copy is printing, or while you're finishing your meal.”

What if I order something else after a dessert, so you just did that for nothing? Are you going to waste another 30 seconds doing this non-sense?

Instead of WASTING VALUABLE TIME, you **COULD** be taking that 30 seconds to get someone a refill. DO YOU REALIZE THAT? You could have been actually doing “REAL WORK” instead of doodling, which is PLAYING ON THE JOB! People want their food and drinks PRONTO! I bet if you polled everyone in a restaurant, 95% would say they’d rather have their stuff as *****FAST***** AS THEY CAN GET IT! There would be a few RARE people that like to just take their time, but MOST people WANT THEIR FOOD AND DRINKS NOW, NOT LATER NOW! If I can have my refill in 2 minutes, I want it in 2 minutes, NOT 5 minutes. 95% of the dining population FEELS THE SAME WAY, OTHERWISE YOU WOULDN’T SEE ALL THESE “TIME” COMPLAINTS, NOW WOULD YOU?

"It takes about 30 seconds to add a personal thought and a smiley onto a tab, by the way."

HONESTLY, MOST people DO NOT CARE ABOUT THAT CRAP. THEY WANT THEIR CHECK 30 SECONDS FASTER HONESTLY. I for sure don't give a shit if someone writes that crap. That just shows they don't care about their customer's time, because that 30 seconds could be used to get another customer's refill. You are "PLAYING" on the job instead of actually doing "WORK." Writing that stuff is play. Going get someone's refill is WORK. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO "EARNING" YOUR PAY?

I have had at least 2 overcharges when servers have done this. If you have time to do this WASTING TIME CRAP, then you have the time to make sure a customer is NOT OVERCHARGED whether it's a wrong price or an extra item or a wrong item or any type of overcharge. I would think ANY SANE CUSTOMER would MUCH RATHER NOT BE OVERCHARGED, JUST SO THEIR SERVER CAN WRITE “THANK YOU” OR DRAW A SMILEY FACE ON THEIR CHECK, WOULDN’T YOU AGREE?

"I've never had a time complaint, and I don't think ever will. I have a well-trained staff at a small restaurant with an exceptional Chef, GM and Sous."

Well MOST chain restaurants DO. Did you read ALL of those “TIME” complaints? Maybe at the restaurant you work at, but MOST CHAIN RESTAURANTS DO have MANY time complaints of “HOW LONG” someone waits for something.

October 20, 2007 1:09 PM



I would like to point out a few things. One, I said you will always find a thank you and a smiley HERE, at my restaurant. Second, we don't do it for the tips - we do it to show appreciation for the customer. Maybe it raises the tip because they feel appreciated and recognized - and if they didn't want the personal touch, like she suggests, why would they tip more?
I am ending this pointless run around with this woman because it is... pointless. She will always be one of Those customers - you know, the ones who feel they are entitled to anything and everything, who are never wrong, who never apologize or thank anyone for anything, who make you cringe when you see them sit in your section.
I apologize to her future servers, her husband and her family for having to deal with her, and I offer them my deepest sympathies.

Happy Bitching.

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"who are never wrong, who never apologize or thank anyone for anything,"

I CAN be WRONG, OF COURSE, I am human just as ANYONE CAN. Secondly, I HONESTLY *****DO**** tell my server "Thank you" when they bring me things. I HONESTLY TRUTHFULLY DO! There are SOOOOOOO MANY SERVERS that DO NOT APOLOGIZE WHEN THEY MAKE A MISTAKE. Do you realize I have had around 2 or 3 servers apologize for missing condiments out of bunches and bunches of times I have had missing condiments? Do you realize, NOT ONE FOOD RUNNER(EXCEPT 1) out of ALL the years we have been eating out since late 2000, APOLOGIZED FOR A MISSING SIDE DISH OR THE WRONG FOOD OR MISSING CONDIMENTS when I have had those situations happen.

I AM VERY, VERY NICE to my servers.

When they are mean to me, I am mean to them. It may not be verbally mean, it usually means not as nice in the tip.

"I would like to point out a few things. One, I said you will always find a thank you and a smiley HERE, at my restaurant."

Do you HONESTLY THINK **MOST** people in general WANT to WAIT 30 SECONDS MORE TO LEAVE WHEN THEY WANT TO GO TO A MOVIE OR WHEREVER? WHY ARE YOU SO INCONSIDERATE OF THE CUSTOMER'S TIME? You think it's a "nice gesture", which I see it not only as a tip increaser(thinking of one's self), but I also see it as a *****VALUABLE TIME WASTER***** that you **********COULD********* BE DOING OTHER THINGS LIKE GOING GET A THIRSTY CUSTOMER THEIR REFILL. PEOPLE WANT THEIR SHIT FAST, NOT 30 seconds later 95% of the time. Do you HONESTLY THINK they want to WAIT that extra 30 seconds to leave or for you to not be at another customer's table that wants their server's attention for a refill or there is something wrong with their food or whatever. WHY DON'T YOU CONCENTRATE ON ACTUALLY DOING ****WORK****** INSTEAD OF DOODLING? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY ARE YOU PUTTING PERSONAL MESSAGES TO STRANGERS? I could simply CARE LESS if their is a smiley face or a "Thank you" on the check. It DOESN'T sway me to tip someone more or less. All it did was WASTE MY TIME I could have been paid and gone 30 seconds faster. Other customers could have had their refills or food 30 seconds faster. You think because "YOU" think it's nice, DOESN'T mean EVERYONE FEELS THAT WAY. MOST people would like there check as QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE WHEN THEY ASK FOR IT. They don't want to be almost like held hostage so you can doodle your smiley face crap. It's A TIME WASTER. WHY CAN'T YOU BE CONSIDERATE OF CUSTOMER'S TIME?

HI THERE! said...

Yikes, Stick o'Crisco! She's been trolling here too? Good grief, that's definitely pathetic. I'm sorry for the sort of person who has no life other than to make a nuisance of herself, all the while yelling how much more 'right' she is than everyone else.
I had a very similar experience with a little creature who constantly bellyached at others, and demanded that the rest of us on the board change our opinions of her, but of course her attitude and behaviour only alienated us further. All the time she was complaining about it, and trying to get back onto the system that she FINALLY got kicked off from. YAY!! .. I heard she has tried to get the police to enforce her right to reinstate her membership on the board system. I just wish I could have seen their faces in response... that scrappy chick STILL lurks the board by using others' accounts.
S-C-A-R-E-Y.
Springs reminds me of the other one in so many ways I might start looking over my shoulder, as if maybe they are the same people? The other one is the same height and build .. about 95 pounds.. YIKES, what if this is the same one??
............ I would NOT put it past her. Be wary. She's nuts, and everything she says in dispute of it just makes her prove our point.
-------Cheers, WizeChiklet